so that's why governor romney is so focused on ohio and for president obama, his campaign thinks if they can keep romney out of ohio, if they can deny romney ohio he cannot get to the president. that's why you're seeing both candate there is so much. but one more fast point and that is that both -- all of these states are pretty much three or four point states. look at the map as to where president obama and governor romney are going to in the final days. that list of seven or eight states, they're almost all competitive under five points so while it does narrowly favor president obama right now, keep in mind, these are all very competitive states, three, four points. >> woodruff: and, margaret, to that point and the point you were making a minute ago, what is it that the obama folks feel they ndto in the final days? >> if today is a road map for the next few days, what they feel they need to do is return to the high ground, so to speak. today you did not here a lot of rom indonesia, you heard a lot of "look at the storm, this is what we can do -- romnesia" we need to hold hands and buck